GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 474079
Ctrl+L is hard to discover
Last modified: 2011-06-27 13:55:58 UTC
I would like to be able to turn off the toolbar and navigate easily to a particular page with the keyboard. With the toolbar, I have to press "Tab Right Right" to highlight the page number each time I want to go to a different page, which is a bit too much. I'm not sure what fits with the GNOME HIG, but the xdvi scheme (<number> g) is quite convenient; however I can see that's not terribly consistent. Maybe Ctrl+G could take one to the toolbar page number, or pop up the toolbar temporarily if it's hidden?
It makes sense to me. Adding Bryan to CC to know his opinion from the usability point of view. Thanks for reporting.
Hm, from what I understood from bug report Ctrl+L should work, no?
(In reply to comment #2) > Hm, from what I understood from bug report Ctrl+L should work, no? > Oh! you are right. I thought Ctrl+l didn't work with the toolbar hidden. It's not a bug then. Sorry for the noise.
Ctrl+L works with toolbar hidden actually, so not a problem really. It's hard to discover it though
Indeed, had I found Ctrl+L documented or in the program, I would not have filed this bug. Could it be added to the Go menu? (I know this is redundant, but it would make the shortcut discoverable.) If not, then a mention in the manual would help, as I read that too, but some users are less patient...
Created attachment 95538 [details] evince with ctrl-L hint visible Here's what I had worked on for this a while ago. I added a (Ctrl-L) hint to the location area. The hint is supposed to be a light colored font which is left aligned an only visible when the entry is not focused. Because I wanted the hint to appear where it is, I right aligned the text inside the input so it naturally corresponds to the $X of $Y notation. In adding the hint text I also made the entry larger, most times I have lots of extra space in my Evince toolbar so I don't think extending the horizontal space on the entry is a bad thing. I'm not sure if there is a translation problem here, would only happen if RTL languages change this entry around. You'd probably have to swap the right / left aligned properties. One side note that I'm not too trilled about. The auto-complete feels awkward when there are only numbers available. I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to add a "Page $X" to the auto-complete. (not including the word page in the searching, just the display) Of course this runs into translation issues even more. But when I type 4 and there is a 4, 41, 42, 43... I'd almost like a little more text shown. When there is real chapter and page titles this isn't a problem at all. [Probably should file as a separate bug]
er, "extending the horizontal space on the entry is NOT a bad thing." Let me know what you think of this idea.
Looks nice, what about showing it only when mouse pointer is hovering over entry?
No, please be discovery-friendly (not to mention keyboard-friendly!) and don't rely on the mouse to show this.
*** Bug 556937 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 588845 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 595465 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
i have the following suggestions 1. use ctr +g for this operation. if necessary keep ctr + l also 2. in the go to menu having something like "Page ctr + g" would greatly help. 3. extending the horizontal space on the entry is NOT a bad thing." have filed a bug on this. having this also would be nice. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595466 reason for ctr+g is that it is more intuitive and used in many programs on windows and GNOME also iirc.
(In reply to comment #13) > i have the following suggestions > > 1. use ctr +g for this operation. if necessary keep ctr + l also +1 I found my way to this bug because I wanted to propose just the feature "goto page x via ctrl+G. It's a common combo in many applications, you can expect some users will just try it even if undocumented IMO. I wasn't able to hide the toolbar but as a proposal for how to invoke the Goto while the toolbar is hidden or via menu entry: Open some minimalitic dialog that contains only the "[ ] of xy (pages)" control and which closes automatically after page jump.
or we can even just show the toolbar and hide it again after jump, so that we don't need to write a new widget.
Yes, that's much nicer and less intrusive!
The feature described by Carlos is already in Evince for some time, and I just committed a patch that adds the GoTo Page to the Go menu, so I think we can close this. Feel free to reopen if they are standing issues.