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Bug 403414 - Let users adjust font-size on first startup.
Let users adjust font-size on first startup.
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: [obsolete] font properties
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Assigned To: Control-Center Maintainers
Control-Center Maintainers
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2007-02-02 00:59 UTC by Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf)
Modified: 2011-08-14 21:44 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: Unversioned Enhancement


Attachments
current code (8.47 KB, patch)
2007-02-02 01:05 UTC, Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf)
none Details | Review
surrent screenshot (43.49 KB, image/png)
2007-02-02 01:07 UTC, Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf)
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Screenshot of a new GtkFontSelectorDialog (26.42 KB, image/png)
2007-02-14 13:23 UTC, Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf)
  Details

Description Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf) 2007-02-02 00:59:16 UTC
Please describe the problem:
As Federico points out in http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2007-01.html#31 font-size selection, DPI adjusting is too technical in GNOME. Users should not care about stuff like DPI, they just should get a dialog when logging in for the first time choose a font size fitting their taste (no matter in what DPI this results) and be happy.

Steps to reproduce:


Actual results:


Expected results:


Does this happen every time?


Other information:
abock blogging about his mockup: http://abock.org/2007/02/01/seriously-lets-make-fonts-not-suck/ - many comments.
Comment 1 Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf) 2007-02-02 01:03:48 UTC
There also are comments and patches in Bug 378338.
Comment 2 Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf) 2007-02-02 01:05:50 UTC
Created attachment 81722 [details] [review]
current code
Comment 3 Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf) 2007-02-02 01:07:31 UTC
Created attachment 81723 [details]
surrent screenshot
Comment 4 John Stowers 2007-02-02 04:50:39 UTC
Mathias, with the addition of all the extra information to your dialog I believe it has become to cluttered.

More fundemendatlly I think having both +/- and a list with different sizes is redundant. I think the mockup posted at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=81711 is a cleaner implementation, taking less screen realestate and using existing GNOME metaphors like the slider widget.

Keep up the good work!

Comment 5 Jens Granseuer 2007-02-02 08:23:55 UTC
As someone already said in the other bug, I think showing dialogs at login time is a bad idea. What we need is a new font settings dialog IMO.
Comment 6 andreruediger 2007-02-02 10:09:00 UTC
I'm also against the idea of dialogs at login time. I think that functionality belongs to the installer and should be distro specific.
Comment 7 Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf) 2007-02-14 13:23:33 UTC
Created attachment 82532 [details]
Screenshot of a new GtkFontSelectorDialog
Comment 8 andreruediger 2007-02-14 14:03:08 UTC
Thanks for your work although I find this screenshot way too complicated. Let's close this bug report or rename it to something like 'new GtkFontSelectorDialog'.

What about the mockups I posted on bug 378338 ([1], [2])?  I could rework them a little and submit the Glade files.

I think what's really needed is a combo box that displays the family names in their respective faces like Aaron said on his blog. (new bug?)

Cheers,
André

[1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=81709
[2] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=81711
Comment 9 Mathias Hasselmann (IRC: tbf) 2007-02-14 15:30:21 UTC
Filled a bug report (Bug 407885) for a new GtkFontSelectionDialog. Your mockups inspired me but fall short (like my previous approaches) when it comes to fancy font faces ("Demi Bold Oblique FooSomeThing").

My plan for this dialog:
- Move the individual font choices from font properities to the theme manager. Let the theme define them and allow override on a theme details tab (see also: Bug 338744 - "Mouse cursor pointer theme should be part of Theme Preferences").
- Use something similiar to my first approach for font properties capplet. Antialiasing settings and hinting settings belong to a separate tab/details button, but need some verbal explaination (maybe from wikipedia, see Bug 407895): My brother - who definitly has a clue about computers - had no idea what hinting is.
Comment 10 Josselin Mouette 2007-02-17 22:50:38 UTC
I second Jens and André: improving the font selection dialog is a good idea, but please don't launch such dialogs on first login. Not only does it make things confusing, but they don't help the user finding which font size is correct during regular use. Just seeing a few lines of text at different sizes doesn't show you how the text would appear on a real window, with different colors and a different layout.
Comment 11 Thomas Wood 2007-02-21 23:16:58 UTC
Just to make this absolutely clear, we are not going to introduce anything into the control center that runs at first time login. Therefore, I'm going to close this bug as WONTFIX.

However, please do open a new bug with your suggestions and patches for an improved font configuration interface that we could include in 2.20.