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Bug 300125 - changing treshold in "fuzzy select" could change current selection instantly
changing treshold in "fuzzy select" could change current selection instantly
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: GIMP
Classification: Other
Component: Tools
unspecified
Other All
: Normal enhancement
: 2.4
Assigned To: GIMP Bugs
GIMP Bugs
: 300512 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2005-04-10 20:07 UTC by Mourad De Clerck
Modified: 2005-04-13 16:31 UTC
See Also:
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Description Mourad De Clerck 2005-04-10 20:07:46 UTC
This is basically a usability enhancement for a specific tool (the "fuzzy
select" tool).

The way I work with "fuzzy select" now is like this:
- I click somewhere on an image
- I see that it hasn't selected enough, or that it selected too much.
- I change the treshold
- I do "shift-ctrl-A" to select none
- I try to find the same spot I clicked previously, and click on it again
- I repeat the procedure until I'm happy with the selection

Of course this all happens rather quickly.

However two problems with this:
1) There's a lot of steps to do, and I basically always have to pick an
approximative treshold, which might often be wrong.
2) Since every time I click on a different pixel, I always pick a treshold
(relative to the previous treshold) based on what might be a different base colour.

So it would be nice if:
- I click somewhere on an image
- I see that it hasn't selected enough, or that it selected too much.
- I change the treshold, and while I change I see the selection change, so when
I release the slider, it's almost exactly where I want it.

Less steps, direct feedback of what you're doing, no mistakes. 

This kind of direct feedback might be interesting for other tools as well; If
the architecture makes it easy, it might be worth considering it for other tools
too.


Thank you for considering this enhancement, and for your great work on Gimp.
It's very much appreciated.
Comment 1 Simon Budig 2005-04-10 20:13:58 UTC
When you press down the mousebutton you can drag to the left and right to change
the threshold. A line shows the currently selected areas.

Does this solve your problem?
Comment 2 Sven Neumann 2005-04-11 00:00:09 UTC
This feature of fuzzy-select, even though around for quite a long time already,
is  hard to discover for new users. A hint in the statusbar would probably be
appropriate.
Comment 3 Mourad De Clerck 2005-04-11 05:33:42 UTC
Yes, that's exactly what I had in mind. I like the fact that the treshold slider
moves too when you drag, that's just great. 

But I have to agree with Sven, it's not something that a user discovers easily.
A hint somewhere would be welcome indeed.

I think you can close this bug (unless you want to keep it open to remind you
about the hint, I'll leave that up to you). 
Comment 4 Sven Neumann 2005-04-11 12:11:43 UTC
I've added such a hint in the CVS version:

2005-04-11  Sven Neumann  <sven@gimp.org>

	* app/tools/gimpfuzzyselecttool.c: added a hint to the statusbar.
	Closes bug #300125.

Comment 5 weskaggs 2005-04-11 15:19:19 UTC
I won't re-open this report, but I'd like to point out that it would still be
useful to be able to tweak the result by adjusting the slider after releasing
the mouse button.  I have often wished for this.
Comment 6 weskaggs 2005-04-13 16:31:25 UTC
*** Bug 300512 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***