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Bug 208208 - ability to disable local folders
ability to disable local folders
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: evolution
Classification: Applications
Component: Mailer
1.5.x (obsolete)
Other All
: Normal enhancement
: Future
Assigned To: evolution-mail-maintainers
Evolution QA team
: 215574 237309 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2001-08-27 15:04 UTC by dcolling
Modified: 2005-02-22 23:02 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: Unversioned Enhancement



Description dcolling 2001-08-27 23:20:11 UTC
Package: Evolution
Priority: Normal
Version: 0.12.99
Synopsis: Feature Request: disable local folders
Bugzilla-Product: Evolution
Bugzilla-Component: Mailer

Description:
I never use local folders because all my mail is IMAP.  Please allow me
to get rid of the local folders altogether.



Unknown reporter: dcolling@abyssnet.com, changed to bugbuddy-import@ximian.com.

Comment 1 Jeffrey Stedfast 2001-09-22 00:13:43 UTC
marking this as a wishlist item
Comment 2 Luis Villa 2001-10-11 12:37:26 UTC
It's a duplicate too.
Comment 3 Heath Harrelson 2001-11-18 00:50:09 UTC
*** bug 215574 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Dan Winship 2001-12-06 05:21:04 UTC
attaching this to bug 216725 for tracking purposes, but not
bumping from Future to 1.2 for now...
Comment 5 Jeffrey Stedfast 2002-05-27 06:55:22 UTC
this would be more a shell bug wouldn't it? the mailer doesn't
actually manage the local folders.
Comment 6 André Klapper 2004-09-06 11:25:20 UTC
*** bug 237309 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Gerardo Marin 2004-09-07 19:40:13 UTC
Now it does.
Comment 8 Not Zed 2005-02-22 04:59:42 UTC
can't really be done, the outbox must always be a local folder.
Comment 9 dcolling 2005-02-22 06:08:09 UTC
It's really a UI issue. Corporate IT people have one mail server,
period.  IT will want to use folders on the mail server to store
drafts, junk, sent, and trash because they must be backed up and
accessible from portable computers and remote desktop servers.
Therefore all these local folders around (Drafts, Junk, Outbox, Sent,
Trash) will never have any messages in them. 

This will be confusing to the typical corporate user.  Evolution is
clearly aimed at the corporate user because its comprehensive feature
set is nuclear winter overkill for the typical home email user.

I understand the point about the Outbox folder but Outbox isn't really
a mail folder like the others, is it? I mean, you can't store mail in
there like any of the others. You can't read any mail out of it either
unless something is broken. Maybe it should be a special top-level
folder that only appears in the UI if there is something in it. That
would make sense, actually.
Comment 10 Jeffrey Stedfast 2005-02-22 16:19:13 UTC
it's a real mail folder. you can store mail in it (tho why you'd do
that is beyond me since evo will try to send it) and you can read mail
in it.

Sent and Drafts also *MUST* be there as fallbacks when remote
Sent/Drafts folders are not reachable or if for some other reason
cannot be appended to.

Inbox MUST also be available

these folders will never go away.
Comment 11 dcolling 2005-02-22 22:32:37 UTC
Amazingly, somehow crufty old Outlook, which Evolution is obviously
modelled on, has managed to solve this problem without having useless
and confusing extra folders cluttering up the UI.  My Outlook is
connected to a single Exchange server and nothing else, just like 99%
of the corporate configs of Outlook, and it shows only the Exchange
folders.

Mind you, it doesn't handle being disconnected from the server very
gracefully but, hey, it's Microsoft - it doesn't have to be good to
sell well.

This really IS a serious UI issue and simply closing this bug won't
make it go away.
Comment 12 Jeffrey Stedfast 2005-02-22 22:37:50 UTC
so... what you are saying is that not handling network outages isn't a
concern? e.g. losing mail is A-Okay?

you just justified the reason for keeping the local folders there :)
Comment 13 Jeffrey Stedfast 2005-02-22 23:02:40 UTC
also, fwiw, what you describe is a feature of "Exchange Mode". if you
setup Outlook to not talk to Exchange but instead make it talk to an
IMAP server, you will have a set of local and remote folders, where
Inbox/Sent Items/Drafts/Deleted Items, etc are all in a local tree too

same with Mozilla Mail and every other mail client on the planet.