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Bug 115981 - Screenreader should appear in Applications menu
Screenreader should appear in Applications menu
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: gnopernicus
Classification: Deprecated
Component: general
unspecified
Other All
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Adi Dascal
Adi Dascal
Depends on: 116379
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2003-06-25 23:52 UTC by Calum Benson
Modified: 2004-12-22 21:47 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Sample icon for gnopernicus (48x48) (3.64 KB, image/png)
2003-07-02 07:18 UTC, Adi Dascal
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Another sample icon for gnopernicus (48x48) (2.58 KB, image/png)
2003-07-06 22:55 UTC, Calum Benson
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And another... (3.23 KB, image/png)
2003-07-06 22:55 UTC, Calum Benson
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Version without any transparency on the speech bubble, since it didn't make much sense really :) (2.43 KB, image/png)
2003-07-06 22:59 UTC, Calum Benson
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A touch more colour in this one... (3.07 KB, image/png)
2003-07-06 23:10 UTC, Calum Benson
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This one combines the elements a bit differently (2.60 KB, image/png)
2003-07-06 23:29 UTC, Calum Benson
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Description Calum Benson 2003-06-25 23:52:28 UTC
Gnopernicus needs to install an appropriate .desktop file so that the
screenreader appears on the GNOME Applications menu.  Consensus seemed to
be that Applications->Accessibility->Screenreader would be an appropriate
menu item for this.  (The actual application name, Gnopernicus in this
case, isn't supposed to be shown in the menus for core GNOME components,
according to the HIG).
Comment 1 Calum Benson 2003-06-26 00:04:02 UTC
Oh, I guess the magnifier should too...
Applications->Accessibility->Magnifier.
Comment 2 bill.haneman 2003-06-26 11:43:56 UTC
Needs fixing before UI freeze, right?
Comment 3 Calum Benson 2003-06-26 18:40:48 UTC
I would imagine so (July 7th)... not sure whether a .desktop file
really constitutes UI or not but no point making trouble for ourselves
if we can avoid it :)
Comment 4 Adi Dascal 2003-07-02 07:18:02 UTC
Created attachment 17974 [details]
Sample icon for gnopernicus (48x48)
Comment 5 Adi Dascal 2003-07-02 07:21:53 UTC
Gnopernicus is now installing the .desktop file so that the
screenreader appears on the GNOME Applications menu :
Applications->Accessibility->Screen Reader and Magnifier (to comply
with GNOME HIG 1.0).
Indeed the Accessibility submenu is not there yet, so you could check
in Others.

I've created an icon too (of 48x48 size), but I did add it as a
sample, not as "THE ICON" (I feel that it is too crowded for an icon
and maybe the penguin makes users  belive that gnopernicus works only
in linux). 

I am attaching the icon to this bug, so anybody who has
talent/disposition/desire etc. and knows about HIG & icons, please help! 
Calum, I saw that you did a good job for GOK, maybe you might want to
help here ?! ;-)
 
Comment 6 korn 2003-07-02 07:43:42 UTC
I think the icon is too Linux-focused.  If you use a figure of some 
sort, I'd make it the four-toed GNOME foot figure.  The attached 
icon also fails to convey magnification.

You might take a look at the icons used for outSPOKEN and inLARGE (a 
magnifying lens and a speech bubble) for inspiration.  See: 
http://www.aagi.com/catalogue/ProductType.asp?Access
Comment 7 bill.haneman 2003-07-02 10:57:31 UTC
Peter - calum has created rather similar icons for the accessibility
"At support capplet" already, so these could be leveraged.
Comment 8 Calum Benson 2003-07-06 22:54:14 UTC
Here's a couple of options, the one with the braille character in
particular looks a little too much like the Accessibility->AT Support
icon to me though :/
Comment 9 Calum Benson 2003-07-06 22:55:13 UTC
Created attachment 18089 [details]
Another sample icon for gnopernicus (48x48)
Comment 10 Calum Benson 2003-07-06 22:55:56 UTC
Created attachment 18090 [details]
And another...
Comment 11 Calum Benson 2003-07-06 22:59:01 UTC
Created attachment 18091 [details]
Version without any transparency on the speech bubble, since it didn't make much sense really  :)
Comment 12 Calum Benson 2003-07-06 23:10:14 UTC
Created attachment 18092 [details]
A touch more colour in this one...
Comment 13 Calum Benson 2003-07-06 23:29:08 UTC
Created attachment 18093 [details]
This one combines the elements a bit differently
Comment 14 Adi Dascal 2003-07-07 07:38:03 UTC
Hi Calum,

Thanks a lot for the icon-design!
My personal favor is 18092, so if nobody disagrees I would like you to
commit it into CVS. Peter, do you agree that it is the right one?

Maybe I am too pushing (sorry for that), but do you think that you
could provide us the same image in a bigger size, so we can use it in
the "About" dialog as logo (like gedit does). Should the logo be
diffrent from the icon (like it is at gok)?

Thanks,
Adi
Comment 15 David Bolter 2003-07-07 14:23:59 UTC
Good point regarding GOK adi,  (see new bug 116881).
Comment 16 korn 2003-07-07 15:48:07 UTC
Of all of them, I think Calum's #18092 is the best.  But... if I may 
make a suggestion (everyone's a critic, eh?): consider making the 
Braille dots a bit smaller, and placing the magnifying lens over some 
of those dots to really illustrate them magnified.  Also consider 
modifying the magnifying lens handle some to make it more visible 
(moving the lens more over the dots should also move the handle to the 
while application background, which might also serve to make it more 
vislble.
Comment 17 Calum Benson 2003-07-07 15:53:50 UTC
Can I suggest we try and get #18092 in the build today then, if
possible (since it's community UI freeze today), and I'll suggest as
part of the upcoming GNOME ui-review that we do "a better icon" along
the lines that Peter suggests.  By making it a ui-review comment, the
post-freeze change will hopefully be allowed. :)
Comment 18 korn 2003-07-07 17:59:54 UTC
Makes sense to me.  Let's put #18092 in today.
Comment 19 Adi Dascal 2003-07-08 07:34:17 UTC
I agree, so Calum please make the commit with the currently chosen icon.

Thanks.

Comment 20 Calum Benson 2003-07-08 12:18:12 UTC
Done.  Will close this bug since it was really about the complete
non-existence of a menu item, and open another one for an "improved
icon" when we do the community ui review.