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Bug 99297 - GNOME Menu should post like a menu via F10
GNOME Menu should post like a menu via F10
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: gnome-panel
Classification: Other
Component: panel
2.1.x
Other All
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Panel Maintainers
Panel Maintainers
AP3
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2002-11-22 17:58 UTC by bill.haneman
Modified: 2015-03-24 13:00 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---



Description bill.haneman 2002-11-22 17:58:58 UTC
GNOME menu; looks like a menu, smells like a menu, acts like a menu 
*except*, wait;

F10 doesn't post it, it takes focus via tab and spacebar activates it?

Since it's usually a single instance on a panel with no other menus, seems
it would be better for users if it obeyed menu keynav semantics rather than
button.  Especially since once you activate it via spacebar, it clearly
looks and behaves like a menu (Esc to unpost, etc.)
Comment 1 bill.haneman 2002-11-26 14:18:51 UTC
This bug should be logged as a gtk+ bug, not a GOK bug; there is
really nothing GOK can do about it, only gtk+ can fix this problem.
Comment 2 bill.haneman 2002-11-26 14:20:14 UTC
arrgh, disregard previous comment, mozilla/bugzilla are doing
something horrible to me at the moment.
Comment 3 Mark McLoughlin 2003-01-30 23:52:53 UTC
huh? But you were recently arguing that the menubar should receive
focus and activate on spacebar .... ?
Comment 4 bill.haneman 2003-01-31 11:34:51 UTC
yes, that's no contradiction (saying that menubar should activate on
focus/spacebar).

but that's not this bug;this bug is "if it smells like a menu, it
should act like a menu" i.e. we call it a menu, it clearly results in
menus being posted, thus it should adhere to common keybindings.

As long as we use F10 to post menus generally (which does not, by the
way, preclude their being in the focus chain), we need to make this
keybinding available consistently.  The foot menu is ATM the only
popup/dropdown (i.e. non-context-menu) menu that doesn't conform.

Comment 5 padraig.obriain 2003-03-26 10:17:39 UTC
F10 cycles through menubars in the current window selecting the first
item in the menubar. The current proposal for fixing bug 89336 is that
F10 would not cause the submenu to be posted.
Comment 6 bill.haneman 2003-03-26 14:44:08 UTC
Padraig, how does your comment above impinge on this bug?
Other than the notion that failing to automatically-post the submenu
would probably be a plus for the foot menu...
Comment 7 padraig.obriain 2003-03-26 15:28:39 UTC
My reading of the description of the bug is that a Gnome menu should
be posted via F10 because F10 is used to post menus.

I am questioning whether this is true.

It looks to me that you are asking that the Gnome Foot be
reimplemented as a menubar instead of as a button.
Comment 8 bill.haneman 2003-03-26 15:42:09 UTC
I think the GNOME foot should post like a menu.  Whether that's
accomplished by reimplementing it as a menubar is not something I have
an opinion about.  But since it's clearly a menu (conceptually), and a
special-case singleton at that, I believe it would be reasonable to do
this either via making it a menubar or by tweaking gnome-panel to
activate it on receipt of F10, i.e. special case gnome-panel to
include the GNOME foot in its menu list.
Comment 9 Calum Benson 2003-04-03 14:36:49 UTC
Updating status_whiteboard field to reflect A11Y team's assessment 
of accessibility impact.
Comment 10 Calum Benson 2003-05-16 15:40:29 UTC
Something deep within me keeps saying that F10 shouldn't really have a
place on the panels at all, and that you should have to navigate to
menus the same way you navigate to anything else on a panel  :) But
until I come up with a good rationale for that, I agree it would
probably be good if the Gnome menu was included in the F10 keynav
chain for a panel.
Comment 11 Calum Benson 2003-07-17 14:28:01 UTC
(And likewise, it would be great if the menu applet / window list
applet were included in the tab chain for a panel, as well as popping
up on F10).
Comment 12 Calum Benson 2003-08-07 16:16:58 UTC
Apologies for spam... marking as GNOMEVER2.3 so it appears on the official GNOME
bug list :)
Comment 13 Calum Benson 2004-10-21 16:45:59 UTC
Apologies for spam-- ensuring Sun a11y team are cc'ed on all current a11y bugs.
 Filter on "SUN A11Y SPAM" to ignore.
Comment 14 David Bolter 2004-11-10 21:03:57 UTC
FWIW it would be convenient if GOK could recognize the launcher as
SPI_ROLE_MENU_ITEM.  Is there any activity on this bug?
Comment 15 Vincent Untz 2005-03-02 09:53:04 UTC
We'll try to fix this for 2.12. I'll probably need some explanations, though :-)
Comment 16 Vincent Untz 2006-01-24 19:29:13 UTC
Mass changing: milestone 2.12.x => milestone 2.14.x
Comment 17 Calum Benson 2006-04-26 17:08:56 UTC
Apologies for spam... ensuring Sun a11y folks are cc'ed on all current accessibility bugs.
Comment 18 Philipp 2013-09-26 04:03:38 UTC
Closing this. No activity for 7+ years, and I don't see gnome-panel going through any more design iterations.