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Bug 89275 - Rename Alpha to Transparency to improve usability
Rename Alpha to Transparency to improve usability
Status: VERIFIED FIXED
Product: GIMP
Classification: Other
Component: User Interface
git master
Other All
: Normal enhancement
: 2.0
Assigned To: GIMP Bugs
Daniel Egger
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2002-07-28 20:06 UTC by Alan Horkan
Modified: 2005-05-19 18:12 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Proposed patch - replaces "<IMAGE>/Layer/Alpha" with "<IMAGE>/Layer/Transparency" (2.07 KB, patch)
2003-01-14 13:35 UTC, Henrik Brix Andersen
none Details | Review

Description Alan Horkan 2002-07-28 20:06:07 UTC
There is difficult balance between sophisticated power user with domain
specific knowledge and new users unfamiliar with a powerful piece of
software like the Gimp.  
In this particular case we can in fact make the Gimp easier to use for new
users without bothering power users.  

In the right click menu there are the items
Image, Alpha, Add Alpha Channel

It took me a while to realise that Alpha meant Transparency, and that was
primarily because of the menu item "Alpha Channel" jogged my memory.  I do
a bit of mathematics so greek letters on their own have a variety of
meanings.  

I propose that Alpha be changed to Transparency so we would have 
Image, Transparency, Add Alpha Channel

This is clearer, removes the redundant repitition of the word Alpha, but we
still have "Alpha Channel" so it is still perfectly clear to the
experienced users what is going on here.  

I have given this plenty of thought and consideration, i hope it can be
agreed upon and changed soon (and hopefully backported, i am stuck using
older versions of Gimp although recently had the chance to check out Gimp
1.4 i think).  

The keyword easy-fix and PATCH_NEEDED should probably be added to this.  If
some one points me to the correct place in the code or other the relevant
place i will try and provide the patch myself but i am really far too busy
at the moment, too many deadlines.
Comment 1 Sven Neumann 2002-07-29 10:17:57 UTC
Should at least be considered for the 1.4 release and it should
probably happen soon so translators have a chance to deal with the
changes.

The easiest way to find the places in code that need to be changed is
to look at the gimp.pot file in the po directory. It lists all
user-visible strings together with the location where they appear in
the source code.
Comment 2 Dave Neary 2002-07-29 11:00:04 UTC
I think it would be better to replace all occurrences of Alpha with
Transparency. Mixing the two is likely to be at best inconsistent, and
at worst confusing.At the code level that might be a bit harder, but
in strings it should be doable.

Cheers,
Dave.
Comment 3 Sven Neumann 2002-07-29 13:53:21 UTC
If there is need for discussion, we should discuss this on the
gimp-developer mailing list.
Comment 4 Alan Horkan 2002-07-29 14:03:33 UTC
What: Transparency
How: Add Alpha Channel

I think this strikes the correct balance between technical jargon and 
easier to understand description.  The GIMP is a complicated piece of 
software, i like the notion that my way might help educate users as 
to the correct terminology while still being fairly usable.  I also 
dont like the redundant repitition of 
Transparency -> Add Transparency
which seems to be what you are suggesting.  I have given this plenty 
of thought and can discuss it further if you are try and convince my 
why your suggestion or any other way is better.  

(never had a bugzilla collison with anyone but myself before, i 
actually wrote this at about the same time as svens above comment.  I 
dont have time to participate fully in GIMP developement and will not 
be joining the mailing list and i am late for a meeting...)
Comment 5 Raphaël Quinet 2002-08-05 11:37:22 UTC
I agree with the "What"/"How" statement made by Alan above.  I think
that we should only change the "Alpha" sub-menu to "Transparency" but
keep "Add Alpha Channel" (or more generally "Alpha Channel").
Comment 6 Dave Neary 2002-08-05 12:07:47 UTC
I'm happy to go along with it, then, if people think it's reasonable.

I tried to send the mail that Sven suggested to the list, but must
have had a typo in the address since it doesn't seem to have appeared
there, and it hasn't come back to me that I've noticed, so it might be
stuck in the "undeliverables" of some mail server somewhere.

Cheers,
Dave.
Comment 7 Raphaël Quinet 2002-08-05 16:27:34 UTC
Be patient with the mailing list.  It looks like the server is down
for the moment and it may have been down since last week (I don't know
because I have been away for the last three weeks).  So it is possible
that your message will show up whenever lists.xcf.berkeley.edu comes
back.  Unfortunately, I don't know who is taking care of that machine
so I don't know when it will work again.
Comment 8 Henrik Brix Andersen 2003-01-14 13:35:48 UTC
Created attachment 13557 [details] [review]
Proposed patch - replaces "<IMAGE>/Layer/Alpha" with "<IMAGE>/Layer/Transparency"
Comment 9 Sven Neumann 2003-01-14 13:48:37 UTC
2003-01-14  Sven Neumann  <sven@gimp.org>

  * app/gui/image-menu.c
  * plug-ins/common/threshold_alpha.c: applied a patch from Henrik
  Brix Andersen that changes the Alpha menu to Transparency (#89275).
Comment 10 Alan Horkan 2003-01-14 14:07:41 UTC
Cool thanks.  
Comment 11 Alan Horkan 2005-05-19 18:12:38 UTC
Verified