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Bug 786077 - 3.25.90, Users & Time panels listed under details
3.25.90, Users & Time panels listed under details
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: gnome-control-center
Classification: Core
Component: shell
3.25.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
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Assigned To: Control-Center Maintainers
Control-Center Maintainers
triaged
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2017-08-09 22:58 UTC by Sebastien Bacher
Modified: 2021-06-09 16:31 UTC
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GNOME target: ---
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Description Sebastien Bacher 2017-08-09 22:58:36 UTC
Trying the new shell in 3.25.90, the users and time panels are listed under "details", they are quite important/basic features though, shouldn't they be listed on the main page instead?
Comment 1 Allan Day 2017-08-22 16:03:45 UTC
Maybe?!

You can certainly argue that the panels should be organized this way or that way. We went through a whole bunch of iterations before we got to the current formulation.

It's not simply a matter of moving that one panel up a level, though - the top level is quite heavily populated already, and the top level has groups and you'd need to fit Date & Time into somehow.

We're certainly open to suggestions, but they'd need to take the whole of Settings into account.

Conceptually I do think that Date & Time fits with the other panels that are under Details - they're all very system-y. Also, Date & Time isn't something that users should have to touch all that often, since they should Just Work™.
Comment 2 Didier Roche 2017-09-05 08:44:16 UTC
I think what Allan says make sense about automatic adjustement and ideally, the user won't have to touch it.

The issue IMHO is more about the labelling of this section, being "Details". It doesn't seem that Date & Time or User managements are "Details" (or at least, it doesn't translate well in French for non native speakers).
Also, there is the section "Details" with the first panel being "Details".

Maybe it would better just to rename that section and as such, all of this organization would make more sense? (Something closer to "System" as you tell yourself that all of those are system-y?) ;)
Comment 3 Felipe Borges 2017-09-05 09:19:17 UTC
As a reference, my android 5 phone has the following categories: Wireless & Networks, Device, Personal, System.

Users is under "Device", "Date & Time" is under "System". "Language & Input" is under "Personal".
Comment 4 franziska.veringer 2018-03-20 15:45:54 UTC
Why not move 

* Users into the Online Accounts section
* Date and Time into the Region & Language section
* Default Applications and About into their own section

The way it is now we neither have a non crowded main level (because https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789372) nor a really comprehensible grouping (What is "Details" supposed to mean anyways? Why is Color in Devices and Sound isn't?). 

So either we accept that we can't have everything at the top level and group more things together and fix because https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789372 (take inspiration from KDE/Android/Windows/MacOS if necessary, it's not like this has never been done before) or we should just move up everything into separate sections and live with the scroll bar.

Also: do we need a perfect solution right away or can we simply iterate on it to get it right?
Comment 5 Georges Basile Stavracas Neto 2018-07-18 00:09:29 UTC
(In reply to franziska.veringer from comment #4)

> Also: do we need a perfect solution right away or can we simply iterate on
> it to get it right?

Let's aim the perfect solution.
Comment 6 André Klapper 2021-06-09 16:31:31 UTC
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