GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 72604
panel docs should be change to reflect foobar clock change
Last modified: 2004-12-22 21:47:04 UTC
well better yet just get rid of the foobar clock and replace it with an applet, but in the event that doesn't happen the gnome-pim options (today,this week, this month) should be removed since gnome-pim isn't being ported to gnome 2 (at least thats what it seems like from the dot plan).
Incredibly, this is not a duplicate. Since gnome-pim is not yet ported (AFAICT) this pretty much needs to be done.
from the dot plan it looks like there is actually no plan to port it. Probably cuz evolution will get ported and is much more powerful.
Hrm. Someone /is/ porting it now but I have no idea if it is going to be ready in time or not. Panel-maint?
Even if gnome-pim is ported, i still think these should be removed. There are plenty of pims out there (evolution, kde-pim, etc.). We shouldn't be tying the panel to an applications (gnome-pim) that is not neccessary for a complete environment.
Well, in an ideal world they would just call 'whatever calendar is installed'; which might be evolution or might be gnome-pim. They /are/ a useful feature, and not everyone wants to install evo.
In a way isn't this discussion futile, since in the end the menu panel will probably be removed anyway :) Well here's a proposal, if gnome-pim is not install, these options should not be in clock pull down menu. Nice compromise :)
Agree, I think this is a somewhat urgent change.
If this is urgent... wow, we're fucked :) I can elevate about 100-200 bugs that are vastly more troubling to the user than this one. That said, it /does/ have to happen before UI freeze, so I won't mark it back down, but this is /extremely/ borderline.
Another solution to this problem is to just ditched menu bar clock altogether and just use the clock applet see bug 72765. Don't know if this will go over well though.
Seth, Calum, Nils..any ideas on this?
This has no effect on the panel docs. Removing "doc" keyword. (But thanks to whoever added it so I could check - this is the right way to do this.)
The gnome-pim options definitely need to go until they can be hooked up to something-- don't really care whether they're just #ifdefed out or the clock is replaced by the clock applet, but given the choice, I'd prefer the latter. Having two almost-the-same-but-hey-not-quite clocks available is just dumb, and I thought one of the big "look, we took notice of the GNOME usabilty report" concerns that 2.0 was going to address all along was that we were only going to have one clock this time?!
What's the status here? snippet of discussion in #bugs: --- <arvind> markmc,louie:any conclusion reached on 72064(foobar clock should remove gnome-pim selections) <louie> arvind: I don't know; it seems that is really the maintainer's call. <louie> arvind: FWIW, if you want to supply a patch to jumpstart discussion, I'd suggest that (1) it remove the clock in favor of clock applet and (2) make sure that the default menu panel include the clock applet. If (2) doesn't happen, (1) is a bad idea. ---
Okay, so I've removed the foobar clock and put the clock applet there by default. John: re-adding the doc keyword so you can see if *this* had an impact on the docs
cc'ing jfleck as he's not likely to see a fixed bug otherwise.
This'll require new screenshots. Reopening so it doesn't get lost, changing subject line to request the one element that is left.
John: I've created a help-docs component and made you owner ... moving there
Adjusting the priority to reflect the current state of the bug.
This is mooted by the move to using the Users Guide chapter for docs.