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Bug 680282 - Displays "me" owner for files instead of my username
Displays "me" owner for files instead of my username
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Product: nautilus
Classification: Core
Component: general
3.5.x
Other Linux
: Normal normal
: ---
Assigned To: Nautilus Maintainers
Nautilus Maintainers
: 722569 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2012-07-19 20:22 UTC by Hernando Torque
Modified: 2014-01-19 22:29 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: ---


Attachments
Use Me instead of me to differentiate from any usernames (1.21 KB, patch)
2012-08-14 15:57 UTC, William Jon McCann
committed Details | Review

Description Hernando Torque 2012-07-19 20:22:59 UTC
What happens
============
Nautilus is displaying 'me' as owner of my files, when 'me' is not the owner of my files.

What should happen
==================
I expect Nautilus to display the the owner of a file or folder in the 'Owner' column (and other places like the 'Preferences > Permissions' tab).

Version info
============
Nautilus 3.5.4 ('3.5.4-0ubuntu1') on the development version of Ubuntu 12.10.
Comment 1 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-07-20 00:42:24 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)

> Nautilus is displaying 'me' as owner of my files, when 'me' is not the owner of
> my files.

This is a little paradoxical; "me" means yourself, and I think it's actually a better wording than spelling the username. Google Docs does the same FWIW.
What's the confusion about this wording?
Comment 2 Hernando Torque 2012-07-20 05:14:48 UTC
> "me" means yourself

That's my problem with this approach. I don't expect to see what the value in the owner field means, I expect to see its 'real' value.

If your username is 'cosimo' and you don't know that a file with the owner 'cosimo' belongs to you, then I don't think the file browser is at fault.

> What's the confusion

My point is, that I think it's wrong to change (displayed) file information just to make the obvious more clear. However, there are some points that could very well confuse users:

* The owner gets renamed, the group doesn't.
* If the user tries to use 'me' in a chown command, it won't work.
* If there actually IS a user named 'me':
  - if you don't show the group column, his files will only differ by the small lock emblem on the files,
  - depending on the 'me' user's permissions, he could change the group to my username and the file wouldn't stick out at all.
Comment 3 dirk.seynol 2012-07-20 15:12:36 UTC
indeed "me" means nothing on a system with several users. Really need the old nautilus setting: "real username" , "root", "..."
Comment 4 Jeremy Bicha 2012-07-21 18:18:17 UTC
I think using "you" instead of "me" should be seriously considered.

In user documentation, we use "you" and "your" a lot, and I think that using the same personal form would make more sense. See library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-introduction.html as an example.

If this is changed, then "My Account" found in the User Accounts panel in System Settings would need to be changed also.
Comment 5 William Jon McCann 2012-08-14 07:53:26 UTC
This is working as intended. I don't think using 'you' would change much. Google docs uses 'me' and I think it works.
Comment 6 António Fernandes 2012-08-14 13:31:16 UTC
I think there is a valid concern raised on Comment #2: "If there actually IS a user named 'me'". Should this concern be a filled as a separate bug?

A way to solve this ambiguity is using "Me" instead, because usernames can't have capital letters, if I am not mistaken.

The capital "M" would also help in visually differentiating it from other usernames in general.
Comment 7 William Jon McCann 2012-08-14 15:55:56 UTC
Ok that sounds like a very reasonable suggestion.
Comment 8 William Jon McCann 2012-08-14 15:57:12 UTC
Created attachment 221167 [details] [review]
Use Me instead of me to differentiate from any usernames

Since "me" could be a local username and usernames will probably
not be capitalized.
Comment 9 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-08-14 15:58:33 UTC
Review of attachment 221167 [details] [review]:

Sure, looks fine.
Comment 10 Cosimo Cecchi 2012-08-14 15:58:43 UTC
Review of attachment 221167 [details] [review]:

Sure, looks fine.
Comment 11 William Jon McCann 2012-08-14 16:00:25 UTC
Attachment 221167 [details] pushed as b37b607 - Use Me instead of me to differentiate from any usernames
Comment 12 António Fernandes 2014-01-19 22:27:41 UTC
*** Bug 722569 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 bryant.eadon 2014-01-19 22:29:56 UTC
*attempting to re-open*

What happens
============
Nautilus is displaying 'Me' as owner of my files, when 'Me' is not the owner of
my files.

What should happen
==================
I expect Nautilus to display the the owner of a file or folder in the 'Owner'
column (and other places like the 'Preferences > Permissions' tab).

Version info
============
GNOME nautilus 3.8.2

The owner field in nautilus should always refer to the named user, not a "soft"
name : 'Me' or 'me'. Those people who need this field will enable it within
nautilus and expect the actual named user be displayed.  Notably, displaying
the Owner is not enabled by default.  Power users should be expected to handle
real usernames and times.

Reasons include : users could be named 'Me' more often now that the installer
is easier for the normal user :

>>"Since "me" could be a local username and usernames will probably not be capitalized."

I don't believe this is a strong argument to keep the behaviour of displaying
"Me".