GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 65484
bugs.gnome.org changed to bugzilla.gnome.org
Last modified: 2009-08-15 18:40:50 UTC
There are a lot of links out there pointing to bugs.gnome.org but it has been changed to bugzilla.gnome.org and this has caused lots of unecessary breakage hassle and confusion. http://www.google.com/search?q=link%3Abugs.gnome.org In case you dont beleive me I searched google link:bugs.gnome.org Please put up a redirect.
I do believe you :) But they're not the same machine. bugs.gnome.org was the original machine, running debbugs. It was somewhere in Mexico, I think :) bugzilla.gnome.org was a new box, set up as a test originally. We imported many of the old bugs in and kept the same numbers. Then bugs.gnome.org suffered a hard drive failure and it turned out to be very lucky that we'd been experimenting with bugzilla. I don't know wht it would take in terms of work and horsepower to rewrite all requests for bugs.gnome.org/db/wotsit/number.html to bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=number.html. It sounds like a good way to tidy stuff up, but I don't know anything about the capacity of the box that's running bugzilla. In addition, something calling itself bugs.gnome.org handles mail sent to it and forwards it on to bugzilla.gnome.org. So I am a bit lost on what bugs.gnome.org is: whether it's just an alias or a real machine still. I think this is a good idea, but I don't know the best way to do it. Beyond one person, I don't even know who ran bugs.gnome.org. That one person doesn't seem so active now, but with luck they still read email. I can't add him to the cc list because he doesn't have a bugzilla account, but I have emailed him. At the very least, it would be nice to have a redirect to bugzilla's top page, but I don't know whether there is even a webserver on bugs.gnome.org.
The mails sent to ...@bugs.gnome.org do not go through that machine at all. They are handled here instead. Here is the MX info from nslookup (set type=MX): bugs.gnome.org preference = 10, mail exchanger = bugzilla.gnome.org bugs.gnome.org preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.gnome.org gnome.org nameserver = NS-MASTER.gnome.org gnome.org nameserver = DNS1-NO.SIMPLEMENTE.NET gnome.org nameserver = DNS1-MX.SIMPLEMENTE.NET gnome.org nameserver = DNS1-US.SIMPLEMENTE.NET bugzilla.gnome.org internet address = 209.116.70.84 mail.gnome.org internet address = 209.116.70.73 NS-MASTER.gnome.org internet address = 209.116.70.70 DNS1-NO.SIMPLEMENTE.NET internet address = 212.71.72.15 DNS1-MX.SIMPLEMENTE.NET internet address = 216.167.121.80 DNS1-US.SIMPLEMENTE.NET internet address = 216.167.121.90 As you can see, the two mail exchangers that can receive the mail for bugs.gnome.org are "mail.gnome.org" and "bugzilla.gnome.org". They are in a different network than bugs.gnome.org itself: Name: bugs.gnome.org Address: 132.248.29.200
We should probably do something about this. bugs.gnome.org doesn't respond so there's presumably nothing that stops us from making it point to bugzilla?
This can probably be closed, as Google reports no responses to link:bugs.gnome.org these days.
Ok. Thanks for the feedback.
I have jokingly said if Google does not know about it then it must not be there. But i was only joking. Altavista still finds links pointing to bugs.gnome.org and even if i did not that does not mean that there is not a problem. a quick search shows this page still points to bugs.gnome.org http://www.uk.gnome.org/webmirrors.shtml Most Gnome contributors i have encountered take such pride in the quality of their work and doing things the right way, this is just a little bit upsetting. This does not seem like something hugely difficult to fix, it seems more like a matter of asking the right person who has the neccessary access priviledges to change the records. Reopening
Oh, I know who runs that www.uk.gnome.org machine. It's possible that should be nuked and we should mirror the right page. "Download October GNOME now" indeed :) I'll give them a poke about mirroring the right thing.
It has been quite a while since i posted this and i do still occasionally happen upon links that point to bugs.gnome.org Is there anything i can do to help move this along?
It's fixed, AFAICT.
It is working nicely. I can only hope people will avoid wholesale breaking links in the future (but it is the internet so fat chance of that happening). VERIFIED
It works. No reason not to completely Close this report.