GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 598459
the mute icon is used when the volume is set to 0 but not muted
Last modified: 2010-10-28 18:22:01 UTC
The bug has been described on https://launchpad.net/bugs/444548 using GNOME 2.28 and gnome-media 2.28.1 * click on the mixer applet, move the slider to volume 0 * the volume is muted and the icon changed to a mute one * right click, uncheck the mute box the icon displayed is still a muted one, it should not
*** Bug 598457 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
The applet can use the status/stock_volume-0 icon for volume = 0 instead of using volume mute icon.
(In reply to comment #0) > The bug has been described on https://launchpad.net/bugs/444548 > > using GNOME 2.28 and gnome-media 2.28.1 > > * click on the mixer applet, move the slider to volume 0 > * the volume is muted and the icon changed to a mute one > * right click, uncheck the mute box > > the icon displayed is still a muted one, it should not What should it be then? We have audio-volume-muted, audio-volume-low, audio-volume-medium, and audio-volume-high. We'd need an audio-volume-none, or something...
$ dpkg -L gnome-icon-theme | grep volume-0 /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/status/stock_volume-0.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/stock_volume-0.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/status/stock_volume-0.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/stock_volume-0.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/status/stock_volume-0.svg this one could be used for example
the icon seems to be equivalent to volume-low in the gnome theme, not sure if that's an icon theme issue though
using volume low doesn't seem better than volume mute there, mac_v could you comment since you are the one who brought the issue?
(In reply to comment #7) > using volume low doesn't seem better than volume mute there, mac_v could you > comment since you are the one who brought the issue? The most ideal way to do the volume mute action is to use an icon overlay and "x" or "/" over the current volume level. [similar to how network manager uses a lock icon overlay for vpn] We could do this overlay using the volume mute icon. Making the mute icon to overlay will be more useful , as the users would know which volume level the unmuting would return them to , but that would be a separate bug. Also , Matthew Paul Thomas' comment > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/humanity-icon-theme/+bug/444548/comments/12 But for this bug report ... the differentiation between volume mute and volume=0 , we could just use the status/stock_volume-0 icon , which is provided in the gnome icon theme also. - Or the gnome-media developers could request a new icon name audio-volume-none from the gnome-icon-theme.
For all intents and purposes, for the applet, muted is the same thing as volume == 0. It was designed that way, though the mute menu entry kind of defeats it.
I don't mean to hijack, but I would like to continue discussion on this bug, also with gnome-media 2.28.1. The idea of muted at volume=zero disagrees with how I expect mute to work. For example, if it was at volume=zero and truly muted, then turning the volume up should not unmute the volume. Furthermore, gnome-volume-control will let me turn the volume down to zero (and mute is set), but then it lets me unmute it anyway, even though the volume is still zero. So I don't see why the flag is set in the first place. Setting the mute flag at volume=0 seems to be an arbitrary decision. It doesn't make too much sense to me, especially since 1) changing the volume will just disregard the mute status, and 2) you can demute it yourself and still have zero volume. What purpose does the mute flag on volume=0 serve? I think it just makes mute slightly confusing.
Because mute isn't confusing? The applet uses mute for volume=0. If you have problems about other parts of the UI, file your own bug. And I'm all for using another icon for volume=0 and mute, but most icon themes don't include those, and I'm really not that interested in spending time working on those.
(In reply to comment #11) > Because mute isn't confusing? > > The applet uses mute for volume=0. If you have problems about other parts of > the UI, file your own bug. > > And I'm all for using another icon for volume=0 and mute, but most icon themes > don't include those, and I'm really not that interested in spending time > working on those. /usr/share/icons/gnome/..../status/stock_volume-0.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/..../status/stock_volume-mute.png These are icons in the _default_ gnome-icon-theme , if the respective icon theme doesnt have them it will fallback to the gnome-icon theme. There wont be any problems even if the icon is not in the concerned theme. Also , Icon-themes are _supposed_ to have those symlinks or icons present in the theme . If the icon theme doesnt have the icons , it would be a bug in the concerned icon theme and you wouldnt have to bother about this then. :D The issue here is we have the provision to have icons , but we aernt using them
err> The issue here is we have the icons , but we aernt using them
There's no "volume-0" icon in gnome-icon-theme. And there's no volume icons in hicolor, which gnome-icon-theme depends on. $ rpm -q gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme-2.30.3-2.fc14.noarch $ rpm -ql gnome-icon-theme | grep volume /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/status/audio-volume-high.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/status/audio-volume-low.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/status/audio-volume-medium.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/16x16/status/audio-volume-muted.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/audio-volume-high.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/audio-volume-low.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/audio-volume-medium.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/22x22/status/audio-volume-muted.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/status/audio-volume-high.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/status/audio-volume-low.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/status/audio-volume-medium.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/status/audio-volume-muted.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/256x256/status/audio-volume-high.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/256x256/status/audio-volume-low.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/256x256/status/audio-volume-medium.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/256x256/status/audio-volume-muted.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/audio-volume-high.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/audio-volume-low.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/audio-volume-medium.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/32x32/status/audio-volume-muted.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/apps/multimedia-volume-control.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/status/audio-volume-high.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/status/audio-volume-low.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/status/audio-volume-medium.png /usr/share/icons/gnome/48x48/status/audio-volume-muted.png
(In reply to comment #14) > There's no "volume-0" icon in gnome-icon-theme. And there's no volume icons in > hicolor, which gnome-icon-theme depends on. > Haha! We were slow and the icons were cleaned up, the stock icons were removed for gnome-icon-theme 2.30 :) We could add an audio-volume-zero with no bars to g-i-t. Subscribing jimmac for his opinion.
In Ubuntu, the sound indicator in the panel uses audio-volume-zero for volume zero.. For reference of the icons used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu
Assuming this to be NOTABUG then. Please reopen if this is not the case.
In my view, introducing a distinction between volume zero and muted is creating absolutely unnecessary complexity. I really see no point.