GNOME Bugzilla – Bug 524545
need non-visual way of placing widgets on canvas
Last modified: 2018-03-26 15:04:58 UTC
Using Orca screenreader, (or just the keyboard) there is no way of putting selected widget onto canvas. This is needed for visually impaired/blind developers. Thank you Other information:
Created attachment 182596 [details] Example dialog source code I confirming this bug. I am a visual impaired developer, and try designing Glade designer a simple dialog (equals dialog with I attaching source code). Future I would like developing a full GTK based Audiobook Converter application with visual impaired users. Now, I need creating dialogs with inside the source code, because with Glade designer I unable to add proper the vidgets for example inside the dialog. Source code dialog creation is working, because I all designing steps "see", but not a good choose and resulting lot of redundant code. I am using Orca screen reader. Because not have keystroke to add a vidget with the dialog and put the added vidget with proper place, I need searching all vidgets with Orca flat review feature, and clicking the widget with simulate flat review right click operation. The problem, when I simulate right click operation, I only possible to choose adding top level menu item. Perhaps I using wrong method to adding vidgets with glade interface, but unfortunately I haven't got sighted assistance. Now, my Audiobook Converter application using Zenity to put frontend dialogs, but I very would like migrate this application future with standard GTK application, because this is extending the possibilities (joining some single presenting dialogs with one dialog, adding graphical way editing pronunciation dictionary, adding a menu bar, etc). Next comment I attaching a simple glade file with I this way designed with Orca (using Orca flat review right click operation), of course the glade file will be broken. Another problem, when I would like editing a vidget properties, Orca doesn't spokening vidget property name, only value (for example the visible property label Orca spokening only value).
Created attachment 182599 [details] This is a designed wrong glade file This is my designed glade file. I possible using only Orca flatreview feature when designing. Absolute sure this glade file is wrong, because unable I to move the vidgets with proper place inside the dialog object proper place (vbox and action area). When I using a vidget property dialog part, Orca only spokening the values, but not spokening the property labels. I need reviewing entire screen the flatreview feature to I hear a property label. Not possible assigning property labels with property values the mnemonic_widget possibility automaticaly? For example, if I creating a horizontal scale, I always creating a label and assigning the mnemonic_widget with the scale object. This is resulting when I jumps the scale in the dialog, Orca spokening automaticaly both the proper label and the scale value. For example, I created in source code the speech rate slider, and defined a label with containing the "speech rate:" text. When I jump the speech rate slider, Orca wonderful spokening the "speech rate:" text, and spokening the slider value. So, the visual impaired user known what meaning this slider. This fix resolves property page usability, because if the property vvalues assigned with the mnemonic_widget the property label, Orca will be spokening both the property label and real value. Attila
With property labels related issue I wrote the 524541 bugreport too, because this report the proper place this second issue. Attila
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