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Bug 407411 - Applications>Internet menu contains lots of non Internet software
Applications>Internet menu contains lots of non Internet software
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Product: gnome-menus
Classification: Core
Component: layout
2.16.x
Other Linux
: Normal minor
: ---
Assigned To: gnome-menus dummy account
gnome-menus dummy account
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2007-02-13 10:06 UTC by Josselin Mouette
Modified: 2021-05-25 12:45 UTC
See Also:
GNOME target: ---
GNOME version: 2.15/2.16



Description Josselin Mouette 2007-02-13 10:06:48 UTC
[ forwarded from http://bugs.debian.org/409437 ]

The reffered menu should be called "Network" instead, or the no-internet
software inside it moved somewhere else.

Most of the software inside it is network related, and internet is just
one possible application. Call everything internet is too Microsoft
stuff. At my office we have our own intranet and all software inside it
applies to it, but it is not internet. There are even some Bluetooth
related software inside it from kdebluetooth package. Since when
bluetooth is related to internet? It can be, but most of its
applications are not. Thats a mess!

I know there are "human interface questions" in order to decide by the
name Internet. But I guess it is simply wrong here.

I home someway this get fixed (my above way or another...).

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Of course GNOME is not responsible for third-party applications adding themselves to this menu. However the category is named "network" and this is why applications use this keyword. You can't expect wireshark or tsclient to not use the "network" keyword.
Comment 1 Vincent Untz 2008-04-17 15:55:08 UTC
I'm mixed here. I perfectly understand that Network is more "correct", but on the other hand, Internet is probably better understood by many people...
Comment 2 Josselin Mouette 2008-04-17 15:59:07 UTC
If you think "internet" is better, why not replace the "network" keyword or create a new keyword? This should be discussed with the xdg people, I guess.
Comment 3 Vincent Untz 2008-04-17 16:26:51 UTC
Yeah, that would need discussion on xdg. But the fact that we already had the Network category makes me feel nobody will want to change the name of the category for compatibility reasons.

Another possibility is to come up with a good query for the categories that will match internet software. Eg: Network and (Dialup or InstantMessaging or Chat or IRCClient or FileTransfer or News or P2P or Telephony or VideoConference or WebBrowser or WebDevelopment). Don't know if it makes sense... What do you think?

List of categories at: http://specifications.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-latest.html#category-registry
Comment 4 Josselin Mouette 2008-04-17 16:41:47 UTC
That would make sense indeed, but what would happen to applications not matching these categories? Should we make another menu named "Networking" or "Network tools"?
Comment 5 Vincent Untz 2008-04-17 16:50:34 UTC
Sorry, yes, that was implied. We would have Internet and Network. But some people won't like this since this is a new toplevel menu. Don't know what's the best here...
Comment 6 Pedro Beja 2014-08-06 15:21:10 UTC
ping ..
Comment 7 Jasper St. Pierre (not reading bugmail) 2014-08-06 15:35:11 UTC
Nobody raised it on the xdg list. This is where it would have to be discussed first.
Comment 8 André Klapper 2021-05-25 12:45:41 UTC
GNOME is going to shut down bugzilla.gnome.org in favor of gitlab.gnome.org.
As part of that, we are mass-closing older open tickets in bugzilla.gnome.org
which have not seen updates for a longer time (resources are unfortunately
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