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Bug 309819 - [epiphany] French translation should use Alle_r instead of A_ller
[epiphany] French translation should use Alle_r instead of A_ller
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Product: l10n
Classification: Infrastructure
Component: French [fr]
git master
Other Linux
: Normal trivial
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Assigned To: French Translator Team
French Translator Team
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
 
Reported: 2005-07-08 15:05 UTC by Reinout van Schouwen
Modified: 2007-04-26 12:33 UTC
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Description Reinout van Schouwen 2005-07-08 15:05:07 UTC
http://www.gnome.org/~chpe/error.png

Observe that the underlining of the 'l' accelerator is almost invisible. It
looks like the 'r' is still free to pick as accelerator instead.
Comment 1 Christophe Merlet 2005-07-17 18:09:36 UTC
Not a bug.
L is used as shortcut in nearly all project !
Comment 2 Reinout van Schouwen 2005-07-17 19:11:48 UTC
Then nearly all projects need to change that. The underlining below an 'i' or an
'l' is so small that they should not be used as accelerator keys.
Comment 3 Christian Persch 2005-07-18 23:29:13 UTC
The HIG recommends against choosing 'thin' letters as access keys:
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/input-keyboard.html#choosing-access-keys
:
Also, it is better not to assign access keys to "thin" letters (such as
lowercase i or l), or letters with descenders (such as lowercase g or y) unless
it is unavoidable. The underline does not show up very well on those characters
in some fonts.

The "l" access key is very bad since it's only 1 pixel wide, nearly impossible
to see.
Comment 4 Christian Persch 2007-01-05 01:28:12 UTC
I'm reopening this bug since the issue still exists.
Comment 5 Christophe Fergeau 2007-01-06 00:15:35 UTC
Firefox uses Al_ler as well, seems like it's the de facto standard accel for that :-/ Dunno if gnome should go a different way
Comment 6 Reinout van Schouwen 2007-01-06 22:33:21 UTC
Do you think it's better / more intuitive for French users to keep it with _l?

I'd like the end decision to be made by the French l10n team, but we shouldn't let arguments like "Firefox does it this way" prevail over our own guidelines.
Comment 7 Christophe Fergeau 2007-01-07 00:12:22 UTC
Dunno :) I couldn't find other apps having "Aller" as a menu label. If most apps use A_ller, then it's better to keep it that way since it will make things more intuitive/predictable. Apart from that, I don't have any preference on the issue ;) 
Comment 8 Jonathan Ernst 2007-01-29 13:23:53 UTC
Firefox 2 is not using "aller à" anymore. If this is really a problem we could change a_ller à -> alle_r à. 

Should we decide to do it, we'll have to change the list of standard accel keys here: http://wiki.traduc.org/gnomefr/Menus