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<louie> I have no idea where to even start tracking those things down, because I don't know where those .desktop files are supposed to be found on a functional system
<llanero> hi, any bug to try?
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<louie> llanero: well, many :) are you looking for bugs to confirm/not confirm?
<louie> evening, menesis
<llanero> yes
<llanero> louie: just tell me what component to upgrade
<llanero> louie: I'm using a 56K modem, so I can't download all them at once :)
<llanero> where is the bug list to try?
<louie> ah, hrm... you might want to look at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/core-bugs-today.cgi for today's bugs
<llanero> ok
<louie> some of those you might be able to close as very old or not informative, even if you don't have anything up-to-date
<llanero> what ones should I try firs? unconfirmed or new ?
<louie> unconfirmed, probably
<llanero> ok
<louie> many of those will be duplicates of other crashes 
<louie> for example
<louie> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?long_desc=toggle_menubar_cmd&long_desc_type=substring <- most of those are duplicates of bug 74704
<campd> louie: well, I don't get the item he describes
<louie> oy
<louie> where is gnome-vfs getting the applications menu from, FWIW? (if that's a different bug)
<louie> pjdowner: exactly what is the title of the thing you're clicking on to get this bug?
<campd> louie: the vfolder method does a bunch of stuff
<louie> where is the path set that it looks through? or does it look through a path at all?
<louie> or is it a hopeless mess? :)
<pjdowner> I run gnome2-control-center from a term, then when it appears select 'Advanced' from the left hand side menu, then on the right should be a list of icons, select 'Windows Sounds' from that list.
<pjdowner> or does no-one else have that :)
<llanero> louie: ok, I looked at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76755 and it seems a NEEDINFO bug, but it tracks gnome panel 1.0.x ... what should I do next?
<louie> pjdowner: ah, you don't have nautilus installed, do you?
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<pjdowner> louie: yes I do.
<louie> pjdowner: is it runnning?
<pjdowner> nope 
<louie> llanero: do you have a bugzilla account?
<louie> pjdowner: ah, OK
<louie> OK
<louie> I still don't have that option :)
<louie> oh
<louie> which sawfish are you using?
<llanero> louie: Umh, I can enter new bugs... 
<louie> llanero: from what email address?
<pjdowner> louie: 2.0.pre1
<llanero> louie: llanero@jazzfree.com
<louie> pjdowner: weird, so we should have basically similar menus. Oh... I think the title was changed slightly. When it comes up, there is a 'general' and a 'sound events' tab?
<louie> llanero: you now have the power to edit bugs. At least for right now, cc: me on every bug that you change; I just want to look over your shoulder until I'm sure you're doing the right things with your new power :)
<louie> llanero: so for that bug, you'd say something like 'this is against a very old version of gnome-terminal; please let us know if this is still a problem with a newer version of gnome-terminal.' and then mark it needinfo.
<llanero> louie: do you mean add you in the CC list of every changed bug?
<llanero> louie: ok
<pjdowner> no, it pops up a Sawfish configurator window, with a few tick boxes and a box that lists all the events and sounds associated with them.
<louie> llanero: yes, add me in the cc: list of every bug you change for now.
<llanero> louie: louie@ximian.com ?
<louie> llanero: yes
<louie> pjdowner: ah, the sawfish window. that doesn't come up at all for me, I'm afraid.
<llanero> louie: should add myself to the cc list?
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<pjdowner> hmm, I'll do a few screen shots if I can.
<louie> llanero: you can do that too... in most cases with really old bugs, they won't ever respond, but it is good to cc: yourself; that way if they do respond you can take care of whatever needs to be done (close, reopen, etc.)
<louie> pjdowner: well, I know which one you're talking about- I just can't test it. :/
<pjdowner> ah right ok :/
<louie> pjdowner: can you file a bug against sawfish for it? Please mark it 'critical', since it catches the mouse
<pjdowner> ok, I'll have a go as this is my first bug report.
<louie> np
<louie> I'm here to answer questions about it :)
