foser_	garnacho_: regarding the albumArtist problem (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=766579)  I havent really come up with a solution, we can use albumartist, but its not always available.. using artist is probably gonna be messy, bc it may differ between tracks on the same album ...
is it possible to use tracker:id or is it assigned only later?
garnacho_	foser_: it's assigned after insertion, boils down to the ROWID alias in sqlite
foser_	yeah i guessed as much
anythiing from the music file is too unreliable really
garnacho_	foser_: next I can think of is looking up musicbrainz... but at that point why keep relying on the file metadata at all
foser_: otoh, perhaps that's a possibility we can live with? it's IMO unlikely that you get equally named albums that happen to be collections too. Stuff like "Best of..." and "Greatest Hits" usually contain a single artist
unless you get into "best of 90's" I guess...
foser_	if anything can exist, it will exist as far as i have seen with the bugs around
some of it is due to crappy tagging and i have no problem calling that out.. but this is a serious problem
garnacho_	right :), that's usually safe to assume
foser_	but that would be tracker looking up musicbrainz.. and thats assuming ppl tag their shit right as well, otherwise you might just get something completely different
garnacho_	yeah, I'd prefer to keep tracker-extract off the grid...
foser_	deffo
garnacho_	foser_: makes me wonder again about using random urns for those, and trying to do smarter lookups/insertions
ssam2	in principle, no reason we couldn't do a separate musicbrainz extractor outside Tracker
might fit into gnome-online-miners
garnacho_	ssam2: that could be an option indeed, still not something that should be turned on by default I guess, some people are sensitive about this leaking of data to random services :)
ssam2	yes good point
i agree that tracker-extract itself should be focused on local data only, for the sake of avoiding immense complexity if nothing else
foser_	garnacho_: you mean smarter lookups when doing extracting, so they get the right urn for albumArtist?
garnacho_	foser_: yeah, precisely
foser_	yeah that seems the way to go
