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<jody> clarkbw: ready ?
<clarkbw> jody, ready when you are
<clarkbw> jody, how is acme integrated into the control-center?
<jody> lets do it
<jody> part of the keybinding capplet now
<clarkbw> ah, i see
<clarkbw> lets do the keybindings then :)
<clarkbw> at 14:45 we're going to stop and switch to Gnumeric, sound good?
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<jody> ok
<clarkbw> can we integrate icons into the action list
<clarkbw> an icon for Desktop
<clarkbw> icons for run, screenshot and the others
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<clarkbw> clahey_, ping
<jody> jrb would be a better candidate for definative answers
<jody> it is easy to draw one in there
<jody> but that list is dynamicly generated to some extent
<jody> so it might be hard to know which icons
<clahey_> clarkbw: Sup?
<jody> I'm also unsure we have 12 or 16p icons for those
<clarkbw> clahey_, can you op me?
<clarkbw> jody, also perhaps we can merge the hint from acme into the dialog
<clarkbw> jody, i'm concerned that the interaction with the capplet isn't clear when it's first run
<jody> clarkbw: I'm not following you
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<clarkbw> jody, picture this as your first time running this capplet
<clarkbw> you opened this because you want a keyboard shortcut for something
<clarkbw> like muting the volume
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<clarkbw> the capplet doesn't quite tell you right away how to set this up
<clarkbw> the help system does, but nobody goes there
<clarkbw> not that the acme tip was the best way to do...
<clarkbw> thanks clahey_ :)
<clarkbw> hey seth
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<clarkbw> am i making any sense? :)
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<jody> clarkbw: yes, but having a big wad of help text at the bottom seems cumbersome
<clarkbw> jody, agreed, i'm wondering what else we can do
<jody> Big damn tooltip ?
<clarkbw> bleh
<clarkbw> ok, well lets move on since i have no more ideas about that one
<clarkbw> sound
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<clarkbw> the 'Enable sound server at startup' is completely useless
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<jody> where would you rather that live ?
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<clarkbw> i'm not looking to move it, but it needs to be re-worded
<clarkbw> it should probably be on by default as well
<seth> clarkbw: maybe not...
<seth> Its a hard choice
<seth> But sound servers tend to cause more problems than they fix
<clarkbw> yeah, i think we'd get flooded with bug reports
<clarkbw> however at the same time people shouldn't need to turn on sound
<seth> Do we need the sound server atm to do sound for events?
<jody> clarkbw: given the choice between possibly broken sound, and no sound I'd opt for no sound currently
<jody> seth: I don't think anyone has fixed the ancient code that handled it
<jody> in an ideal world we could piggy back off of atk
<seth> Sound events are generally pretty busted in GNOME
<jody> and ditch it
<seth> Esp. since we don't have a nice sound set
<clarkbw> so i'll change my suggestion to:
<clarkbw> moving 'Sound for events' to the Sounds Events tab
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<clarkbw> getting rid of the general tab
<clarkbw> the enable at startup just seems obvious if they want sounds for events
<jody> clarkbw: rather outside the scope of a change for 2.6
<clarkbw> jody, come on, you're getting gnumeric ui stuff out of this :)
<jody> I've managed to avoid mucking in that code
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